Andrew Lewin and co-host Dr. David Ebert interview John O'Sullivan, the director of collections at Monterey Bay Aquarium. John shares fascinating stories about his career, including collecting animals and creating exhibits at the aquarium. The episode explores the evolution of shark science, from early perceptions of sharks as dangerous to the growth of the field and public interest. Listeners will gain a deeper understanding of these incredible species and the work being done to study and protect them. Connect with us: Website: https://bit.ly/37TMqeKInstagram: https://bit.ly/3eorwXZ Beyond Jaws is supported by Save Our Seas Website: https://saveourseas.com/ Dave:  Website: https://www.lostsharkguy.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/3q1J9Q5 Andrew: Website: https://www.speakupforblue.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/37g5WkG In the episode, the guest speaker emphasizes the importance of volunteering and developing skills as valuable ways to take control of one's destiny and pursue their passions. They suggest that individuals should start volunteering with groups and topics that align with their interests. This not only helps them develop contacts but also provides them with the opportunity to gain experience and explore their interests. Through volunteering, individuals can discover whether they truly enjoy a particular field or not. If they don't, they can always go back to school to learn more. The guest speaker emphasizes that one should not let a lack of education impede their progress, as passion and means are more important. Furthermore, the guest speaker shares examples of individuals who started in entry-level positions but eventually ended up managing development and building new exhibits. This highlights the idea that individuals can control their destiny and achieve success in their chosen field, regardless of their initial position or educational background. The guest speaker personally found volunteering to be one of the most valuable ways to pursue their passion. They emphasize the importance of discovering one's passion, developing tools around it, and self-educating through colleagues. Overall, the episode emphasizes that volunteering and developing skills are valuable ways to take control of one's destiny and pursue their passions. It encourages individuals to explore their interests, gain experience, and not let a lack of education hinder their progress. In addition, the episode emphasizes the importance of networking and making connections in one's career. The guest speaker shares his own experience of how networking played a pivotal role in his career development. He specifically mentions Chuck Farwell, who worked at the aquarium, as one of the most influential connections he made. This connection opened up opportunities for him and helped him develop his skills. The speaker also highlights the value of volunteering as a way to develop contacts and gain valuable experience. He advises young people to start volunteering with groups and topics that align with their interests. Volunteering not only helps in developing skills but also allows individuals to explore different fields and discover their passion. Furthermore, the guest speaker emphasizes the significance of having a network of colleagues who can vouch for one's work ethic and skills. He mentions that having someone who can make a call and recommend an individual, even if they don't have the exact skill set required, can make a difference in standing out among other applicants. Overall, the episode emphasizes that networking and making connections can be pivotal in one's career. It is through these connections that opportunities are often discovered, skills are developed, and progress is made. According to the episode, volunteering can help develop a positive and self-rewarding attitude towards work. The guest speaker emphasizes that one should not be hindered by the belief that they do not have enough education to pursue a certain field. Instead, if some