This week's guest has been incredibly influential in shaping not just how art conservators think about preserving art on the internet, but also in building tools to help them accomplish things we never thought possible. As Rhizome's Preservation Director, Dragan Espenschied is responsible for the preservation of thousands of works of art experienced through the web, accessible to the general public 24/7, 365. As we'll hear, this very particular context has required Dragan to approach the practice of preservation from a fundamentally different angle than what has evolved in museum practice. Dragan's way of working, and his contributions to the field are vital and serve as a valuable counterpoint and compliment to the slower, smaller scale, shall we say small-batch style approaches we are more accustomed to seeing in conservation. Tune in to hear Dragan's story!Links from the conversation with Dragan> Rhizome: https://rhizome.org/> Zombie + Mummy: https://www.diaart.org/program/artistswebprojects/olia-lialina-and-dragan-espenschied-zombie-mummy-web-project> Emulating “Bomb Iraq”: https://rhizome.org/editorial/2014/jun/24/emulating-bomb-iraq-arcangel/> Theresa Duncan CD-ROMs: https://sites.rhizome.org/theresa-duncan-cdroms/New way to support the show - join us on Patreon!> https://patreon.com/artobsolescenceJoin the conversation:https://twitter.com/ArtObsolescencehttps://www.instagram.com/artobsolescence/Support artistsArt and Obsolescence is a non-profit podcast, sponsored by the New York Foundation for the Arts, and we are committed to equitably supporting artists that come on the show. Help support our work by making a tax deductible gift through NYFA here: https://www.artandobsolescence.com/donate