This week on the show we visit with the one and only Rafael Lozano-Hemmer, whose software-based artwork spans from massive outdoor interactive public art, to more domestic-scale works that can be found in galleries and art fairs all over the world. Rafael has been making both intellectually and technically challenging work for decades, and in this chat we’ll hear about his roots as young artist working in experimental performing arts, learning from his mentor Dick Higgins, building a robust studio that employs over fifteen engineers, artists, coders, and we’ll hear about some hard-earned lessons in selling and caring for time-based media art.Links from the conversation with Rafael:> https://www.lozano-hemmer.com> Current SFMOMA exhibition: https://www.sfmoma.org/exhibition/rafael-lozano-hemmer-unstable-presence> A Crack in the Hourglass: https://www.brooklynmuseum.org/exhibitions/rafael_lozano_hemmer Join the conversation: https://twitter.com/ArtObsolescence https://www.instagram.com/artobsolescence/ Support artists Art and Obsolescence is a non-profit podcast, sponsored by the New York Foundation for the Arts, and we are committed to equitably supporting artists that come on the show. Help support our work by making a tax deductible gift through NYFA here: https://www.artandobsolescence.com/donate