This week’s show features legendary net art pioneer Shu Lea Cheang, interviewed by our very first guest host, Emma Dickson. Together they discuss the conservation of Shu Lea’s piece Brandon (1998-1999), how the remnants and ephemera of creative practice lives in archives, institutional link rot, and Shu Lea’s fruitful decades long collaboration with a programmer whom she’s never met.Links from the conversation with Shu Lea> Shu Lea’s website: https://mauvaiscontact.info> Brandon: http://brandon.guggenheim.org/> Restoring Brandon: https://www.guggenheim.org/blogs/checklist/restoring-brandon-shu-lea-cheangs-early-web-artwork> Emma's website: https://emmadickson.info> Emma’s walkthrough of Brandon: https://youtu.be/qq2_t3U_f9U> Emma's TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@__emmadicksonJoin the conversation:https://twitter.com/ArtObsolescencehttps://www.instagram.com/artobsolescence/Support artistsArt and Obsolescence is a non-profit podcast, sponsored by the New York Foundation for the Arts, and we are committed to equitably supporting artists that come on the show. Help support our work by making a tax deductible gift through NYFA here: https://www.artandobsolescence.com/donate