In this episode, I chat with Celeste-Leilani Lazaris from The Travelling Horse Witch. Celeste heals both horses and humans using bodywork, breathwork and mindset - for more on this check out episode 11 of the podcast. In our last podcast episode, Celeste touched on the importance of the thoracic sling and how releasing any nerve pain from this area and slowly teaching horses to carry themselves correctly is having a huge impact on the horses she is working on. She has also shared many before and after posts and informational posts on her social media accounts which outlined how important this work is but it led me to ask her...ok this is great but how can we help our horses build up their front end? Which brings me to this episode of the podcast! Together we have a conversation about traditional horse training and how the focus is predominately on the topline and the hindquarter which often fails to build up the chest and abdominals which is responsible for our horses being able to really carry themselves correctly. Celeste talks about what the thoracic sling is, the findings she is seeing in the many horses she is working on, how we can start to really build our horses front end up and what our horses should feel like.  + so much more Connect with Celeste here: https://www.wildmagicllc.com/ https://www.facebook.com/wildmagicllc/ https://www.instagram.com/travelinghorsewitch/ Connect with me via: www.confidentequestrianprogram.com Instagram - @felicitydavies_