In this episode, my guest is Dr. Lisa Miller, the author of the new book The Awakened Brain: The New Science of Spirituality and our Quest for an Inspired Life. Dr. Miller is a New York Times bestselling author and a professor in the Clinical Psychology Program at Teachers College, Columbia University. She is the Founder and Director of the Spirituality Mind Body Institute, which is the first Ivy League graduate program and research institute in spirituality and psychology.In the conversation, Dr. Miller and I discuss:Navigating science and spirituality Finding meaning in lifeThe science of desire and clingingWisdom and nature Letting life unfold and much moreConnect with Dr. Lisa Miller:  lisamillerphd.com/Follow In Search of Wisdom:Subscribe to our YouTube ChannelTwitter: twitter.com/searchwisdompodInstagram: instagram.com/searchwisdompodSign-up for The PATH, our free newsletter (short reflections on wisdom). Get full access to Perennial Meditations at perennial.substack.com/subscribe