In a world seemingly gone mad, optimism can be in short supply. On this episode, Dan speaks with groundbreaking visionary Bruce Mau. The subject of a new documentary on his life and career, Mau talks to Dan about his Canadian roots, his empowering museum show Massive Change, and how a book with architect Rem Koolhaas changed his life. Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.