Reuben is a co-founder and Managing Director of Smudge which has been developing apps since the iPhone first came out.  In this interview we start with a discussion about his love of music before we turn to his early experiences developing apps.  We then discuss some of the work they do today including with the New Zealand Police to save thousands of hours of time and reduce the paperwork involved in their jobs.  This is being released in the week of the Canterbury Tech Summit 2018 which had more than 700 attend - and where Seeds Podcast had a stand in the Community Zone. https://www.smudgeapps.com http://canterburytech.nz