In this episode, Greg hosts Scott Barry Kaufman, a cognitive scientist and humanistic psychologist. He is the founder and director of the Center for the Science of Human Potential and an Honorary Principal Fellow at the University of Melbourne’s Centre for Wellbeing Science. Dr. Kaufman hosts the The Psychology Podcast-which has received over 20 million downloads and was included in Business Insider’s list of “9 podcasts that will change how you think about human behavior.”  He joins the Respondent podcast to discuss his book, Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs, the importance of play life, the societal impact of over-correction, the B and D realms and much more. If you enjoyed this conversation, be sure to subscribe!————————————Follow Scott Barry Kaufman on Twitter @sbkaufmanhttps://twitter.com/sbkaufmanCheck out his websiteScottBarryKaufman.comAnd check out his bookhttps://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WZ9T5TM/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1————————————Follow Me On————————————All Platforms: https://linktr.ee/GregEllisFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/realgregellis/Twitter: https://twitter.com/ellisgregInstagram:https://www.instagram.com/realgregellis/ ————————————Show Notes————————————[00:00] Intro to the episode[01:13] Greg introduces Scott[02:27] Where Scott grew up[02:48] Playing ball with Kobe Bryant[:04:12] His learning disability in school[05:11] Male role-models as a child[06:16] The Respondent, Maslow's Hierarchy of needs, and Scott Barry Kaufman's book Transcend: The New Science of Self-Actualization.[09:05] "Maslow's Hierarchy of needs, it's depicted as a pyramid. He never actually drew a pyramid in any of his writings. What I wanted to get at was more of the spirit of that connection between security being the boat itself, safe and secure. Do you feel like you don't have a lot of holes in your boat? Do you feel like you can move without water coming in and drowning you? But also realizing and recognizing just a safe boat ain't going to get you anywhere, bud. You need to eventually open up that sail and be vulnerable to the threats, the inevitable unknown of the world." SBK [10:42] Greg reads his aphorism of Maslow: "The cerebral paradox, the elusive obvious, the letting go of holding on. Finding by not looking, unearthing without disturbing the ground, going to pieces without falling apart, accepting answers without question, unconscious incompetence, conscious incompetence, conscious competence, unconscious competence." GE [11:03] Did Scott find a key to unlocking unconscious competence? [11:42] Importance of play and fun [13:33] The value of therapeutic work and why Scott is a humanistic psychologist. [15:53] Rewriting your inner thoughts process [18:24] Silvan Tomkins quote, "The world we live is a dream we learn to have from the script we have not written."[21:18] “If we can imagine the story of who we are becoming, then it might be easier to get there.” GE[21:49] "I think one of the hardest things about being human is finding your own storyline." SBK[23:31]  Greg describes Scotts micro-expressions for the audio listeners.[24:51] Leaving academia and Scotts alternative lifestyle[26:24] Auditioning for American Idol[31:54] Scotts pick up artist friend and innovating through limits[35:36] Scott reads something from his book.[36:31] "Healthy authenticity that helps you become a whole person involves understanding, accepting, and taking responsibility for your whole self as a root to personal growth and meaningful relationships." SBK[37:57] SBK's book as a Ted Talk, finding the commonality, transcending identity to find common humanity and strength spotting.[39:09] "You can look beyond your identity to find a common humanity and make sure our identity is not blocking us and limiting us from not seeing the humanity of another individual that's in front of us." SBK[42:39] Teaching commonalities in the school system[46:30] The societal impact of the over-correction[50:10] "It's almost like typical masculine traits are