In this episode, Greg hosts Debbie Hayton, a physics teacher, trade unionist, and journalist from England. She has been a local campaigner for trans rights since she transitioned from male to female in 2012. She continues to be a voice for the trans community on public policy, litigation, and proprietor of equal rights and fair treatment of not only trans people but everyone in Britain.Greg and Debbie discuss the challenging decision of deciding to transition from a man to a woman, cycles of buying women's clothes, the impact of the internet in finding other like-minded people, social transitioning, surgical and hormonal transition, gender dysphoria, trans rights, women's rights, Debbie’s changing view of her own gender identity over time, controversial T-shirts, how should children with gender dysphoria be handled by their guardians, pronouns, and much moreIf you enjoyed this conversation, be sure to subscribe!————————————Follow Debbie Hayton on Twitter @DebbieHaytonhttps://twitter.com/DebbieHayton?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor————————————Follow Me On————————————All Platforms: https://linktr.ee/GregEllisFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/realgregellis/Twitter: https://twitter.com/ellisgregInstagram:https://www.instagram.com/realgregellis/————————————Show Notes————————————[00:00] Greg Ellis welcomes this episode's guest Debbie's Hayton who gives the audience a little more background information.[03:58] Coming to the decision to transition[05:02] Buying and wearing female clothes as a teenager[08:01] The next stage of transition. the internet's impact and meeting someone who had already transitioned[11:23] The next step to transitioning. Making the plan to transition[12:37] Debbie's conversation with her GP (Regular Dr.) and her mental stage at that time[17:47] When all hope is lost it can seem like it is pointless to go on.[17:56] Finding hope[21:11] Going out in public with her new identity[23:55] Her time leading up to surgery[27:06] What led her to start writing what it meant to be trans[31:49] Did she apologize for writing what she wrote?[33:13] Realizing she had made a mistake about her identity[36:17] Talking about her realization[39:35] Does he have support for his position?[40:48] What she would say to people that say they're transwoman and they're a woman. When it comes to this transgender ideology it's not permitted, it seems to me, to hold different points of view on this. Transgender Legislation Has it gone too far or do we have enough? Did Debbie's kids have lots of questions? What advice would he give her pre-transitioned self? [51:10] What pronouns does he go by today?[53:11] Scottish Transgender legislation. Her opinion and problems regarding such legislation[55:52] Transgender parenting[01:12:57] Identifying with the wrong futbol team and the difference in political correctness through the ages[01:15:02] A funny moment he can now laugh about[01:17:18] Transgender differences over time[01:19:17] How well does Debbie Hayden know herself?[01:19:38] The Meaning Seeker. Where does Debbie find meaning?[01:20:27] The most meaningful moment of his life[01:21:12] What would her own Epitaph say?[01:21:32] His one wish[01:32:50] Wrapping up the show with Debbie Hayton#GregEllis #DebbieHayton #TransRights #WomansRights