Adam welcomes back Patrick Cournot, Alexis Percival, and Moshe Schulman of the acclaimed New York wine bars Ruffian and Kindred to discuss how they've managed the Covid-19 crisis since March, and why they think it's critical that indoor dining be halted. Please send any suggestions or requests for future Conversations to podcast@vinepair.com. Thanks for listening, and be well. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.