Earlier last week, President Donald Trump announced he was signing two presidential proclamations to the size of Bears Ears National Monument and Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument. Host Dan Loney speaks with Eric Orts, Wharton professor and Director of Wharton's Initiative for Global Environmental Leadership, and Robert Keiter, Director of the Wallace Stegner Center of Land, Resources, and the Environment at University of Utah's College of Law, to discuss the impact and public reaction of this decision and why it's being sent to the courts for a final decision on Knowledge@Wharton. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.