Kia Ora Whanau. Matt was never as happy as when he woke up at 0130 for the chance to speak to the most wonderful Mirna Valerio. Mirna, now residing in Vermont, is a native of Brooklyn, NY, a former educator, cross-country coach, ultrarunner, obstacle course enthusiast, and author of the recently published memoir, A Beautiful Work in Progress. Although she began running in high school, she recommitted to the sport after a health scare in 2008. It was then that her love for running and all its attendant benefits were reignited. She soon started her blog Fatgirlrunning, about her experiences as a larger woman in a world of thinner athletes. Mirna's athletic story was featured in the WSJ, Runner’s World, on the NBC Nightly News, CNN, on the CW Network, and in the viral REI-produced documentary short, The Mirnavator. Her writing has been featured in Women’s Running Magazine, Self Magazine Online, Outside Online, and Runner's World Magazine. And she was chosen as a 2018 National Geographic Adventurer of the Year. I mean, that’s a lot right? This felt like an incredible conversation for the times that we are living in. Insightful, authentic, challenging, and brilliant all at the same time. Whilst we’re at it Eugene and Matt discuss how sometimes discretion is the better part of valour, the season of the FKT, what constitutes a one dog zoomie riot and the great Garmin debacle of the roaring twenties. Enjoy.