This week, I’m joined by the lovely Elyse Dehlbom who is known for leaving Colton’s season of The Bachelor on her own terms. Before we talk all things Bachelor, we address that polarizing Demi episode. We discuss the concept of “mansplaining” and ask how we can better understand it and how to avoid it. We talk about Elyse’s choice of breakup clothing (wedding dress?) and how to navigate dating people with children. As always, we answer some fan questions and things get…well…steamy.This podcast is all about learning and deepening the conversation. Thanks for coming with me on this journey.

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