On this episode I welcome Dr. Jessica Steier, a public-health expert, and Dr. Andrea Love, an immunology expert. They are the hosts of Unbiased Science, a podcast devoted to objective, critical appraisal of available evidence on health-related topics relevant to listeners’ daily lives. We discuss the following: What could have been done differently in this pandemicThe difference between misinformation and disinformationWhat’s next in this pandemicWhy debunking information is so difficult as science-educatorsWhat it means when a pandemic becomes endemic Follow them at @unbiasedscipod on Instagram and visit www.unbiasedscipod.com where they offer a searchable database. Listen to the Unbiased Science podcast wherever you listen to podcasts.