In this episode, Jay is interviewed by Scott Sylvan Bell, a sales trainer, persuasion expert, and President at Aries711, LLC. As a body language and non-verbal communication expert, Scott is fascinated by Jay’s perspective on business growth, entrepreneurship, high-level mindset, and resiliency.Jay shares his mindset around resiliency, what he thinks about making the most (or least) out of life, and how to always find opportunities in adversity. You’ll learn the role of resilience in business and life success and the connection between your level of resilience and experience. Listen in to discover why Jay doesn’t like the term “imposter syndrome,” and what he proposes we say instead. Learn what sets resilient business leaders apart and Jay’s words of advice for people facing adversity—and hear why he’d rather be loved or hated than just merely tolerated. 00:00 - 09:30 - Scott introduces Jay, his strategies, and his path of resiliency; Jay shares his journey of entrepreneurship, challenge, and learned competence. 09:30 - 13:00 - On learning, setbacks, the dynamic of being alive, and the ultimate goals that we should keep in mind along the way. 13:00 - 15:00 - Jay’s pathways of resilience, what he thinks about making the most (or least) out of life, investing in knowledge, and educational “insurance policies.” 15:00 - 23:00 - Resilience in business leaders in times of struggle, presence of mind, the connection between experience and resilience, subjectivity, and predisposed beliefs. 23:00 - 34:00 - Being loved or hated (not just tolerated), imposter syndrome (or persona roles), and being authentic, taking action, and having integrity. 34:00 - 40:30 - Words of advice for people facing adversity, the relationship between expansion and contraction, and the lesson that defeat is not permanent.