Talking about race can be difficult. But Mellody Hobson argues that we need to do it anyway – boldly and often. Mellody is the president of Ariel Investments, a firm that manages more than 13 billion dollars. And throughout her career and in her personal life, she’s experienced just how corrosive it can be when people choose to be “color blind.” In this candid conversation, she shares her vision of a more harmonious, diverse America — and the difficult truths we need to swallow (and discuss) to get there.

Find the transcript at: go.ted.com/interviewhobson