In this episode, Sal, Adam and Justin speak with Lisa Sugarman & Debra Fox Gansenberg, the authors of How to Raise Perfectly Imperfect Kids and Be Ok With It: Real Tips & Strategies for Parents of Today's Gen Z Kids. How who they are and what they do are very similar. (1:44) What inspired the book? (4:34) Providing an opportunity for families, kids and teachers a place to come to not feel judged. (5:45) What does the term ‘humanistic’ mean to them? (8:12) The problematic future of ‘lawnmower’ parenting. (9:18) How do we as parents manufacture adversity? (14:45) Their take on the ‘everybody getting a trophy’ generation. (19:13) How the loses are where the real magic happens. (22:44) The challenges raising kids in this social media world. (26:32) The difference between EQ vs IQ. (35:10) Is depression and anxiety a symptom of overbearing parents? (38:43) Are we overinforming our children? (40:15) Walking the walk and talking the talk. (48:21) How you earn a reward, but you also earn a consequence. (51:20) What is the hardest thing to communicate to parents? (53:33) Why parents must hold their kids to their OWN standards. (56:45) Are there common challenges they see with moms and dads? (59:35) The benefits of ‘rough and tumble play’ with our children. (1:01:33) The importance of communication between partners. (1:03:44) The value of children seeing the impact of their choices. (1:09:48) What are the challenges they have faced with their own kids and how have they overcome them? (1:12:35) Understanding and managing the different parts of ADHD (attention deficit hyperactivity disorder). (1:20:37) Exploring the alternative methods of education with our kids. (1:28:40) Creating a movement with their newest book. (1:35:36) Featured Guest(s)/People Mentioned Debra Fox Gansenberg, LICSW (@foxganzy)  Instagram New Beginnings Counseling Service Lisa Sugarman (@lisa_sugarman)  Instagram Lisa Sugarman Warren Farrell, PhD (@drwarrenfarrell)  Twitter Related Links/Products Mentioned December Promotion: MAPS Aesthetic ½ off! **Code “BLACK50” at checkout** Equal Parts Podcast How to Raise Perfectly Imperfect Kids and Be OK with It: Real Tips & Strategies for Parents of Today’s Gen Z Kids - Book by Lisa Sugarman and Debra Fox Gansenberg Kids of Helicopter Parents Are Sputtering Out Mind Pump 872: Dr. Warren Farrell- The Boy Crisis Montessori Schools