You might know my next guest from her bestselling book Grit. Its sold millions of copies and stayed on the bestseller lists for hundreds of weeks. If you're not familiar with her work, Angela is Distinguished Professor of Psychology at the University of Pennsylvania. She is the founder and CEO of Character Lab, a nonprofit whose mission is to advance scientific insights that help children thrive. Her TED talk is among the most-viewed of all time.  If you're a note taker of these episodes, get ready. Angela drops so much gold. Some of the topics we cover: * how passion and perseverance are key components of grit * how to uncover what your area of passion * the benefits of sampling before you specialize. * and so much more.... Enjoy! Today's episode is brought to you by CreativeLive. CreativeLive is the world's largest hub for online creative education in photo/video, art/design, music/audio, craft/maker and the ability to make a living in any of those disciplines. They are high quality, highly curated classes taught by the world’s top experts -- Pulitzer, Oscar, Grammy Award winners, New York Times best selling authors and the best entrepreneurs of our times.