The Real Way to Get Mentally Tough: Matt Fitzgerald   The biggest difference between elites and the rest of us is not simply talent; it’s mental resilience. Matt Fitzgerald has been studying elites his entire career and has learned what techniques the best of the best use to get there. In his new book, The Comeback Quotient, Matt talks about a philosophy called ultrarealism and how we can all apply it to add some extra oomph to our training and push to the next level.   Matt is a well-known endurance sports author, coach, and nutritionist. His many books include How Bad Do You Want It?, 80/20 Running, and The Endurance Diet. Matt’s writing has also appeared in numerous magazines, including Outside and Runner’s World, and on popular websites such as podiumrunner.com and nbcnews.com. He is a cofounder and co-head coach of 80/20 Endurance and the creator of the Diet Quality Score smartphone app. A lifelong endurance athlete, he speaks frequently at events throughout the United States and internationally.   Matt’s work has given him access to some great athletes who have shared their secrets about what it takes to truly become the best in the world, and it’s not just about raw talent or genetics; it’s about the mind. It’s about leveraging science and psychology and philosophy into mental toughness. In The Comeback Quotient, Matt combines those elements that he’s compiled from the best in sport to deliver actionable advice and techniques that any athlete can use to improve.    If you haven’t heard of David Goggins, look him up. He overcame an abusive upbringing to transform himself into a Navy Seal, Air Force Ranger, and competitive ultramarathoner, and he is undeniably one of the toughest minds out there. He’s just one example from Matt’s book that he and Coach Claire discuss as they talk about the qualities that athletes like David have that we can all develop in ourselves.   Matt’s new book The Comeback Quotient comes out in December 2020, and if you are as interested in training your mind to be as fit as your body, make sure you get a copy!        Questions Matt is asked:   6:15 You've written several books on endurance fitness that also seem to have a healthy dose of psychology woven in.  What is it about the mental side of the sport that interests you so much?   7:49 I have two little kids, and when they run, they run as fast as they can and then completely poop out. They have no sense of pacing or anything like that, so obviously that’s something that we have to learn.   8:30 Your new book that’s coming out is called The Comeback Quotient.  Can you give us a summary of what it's about and why you wanted to write it?   9:56 One thing that you talked a lot about in your book was a philosophy called ultra-realism.  Can you explain what that is and why it's important not just for athletes, but for life?   12:24 It sounds so simple when you say, “Just make the best out of it.” How simple is that? But why is it so hard?   14:16 If our brain is so good at predicting, then what do we do when we haven’t thought out a way to get around the obstacle?   16:50 How do you override everything your brain is telling you when you’re in pain?   18:51 You did have a few examples in your book of people who like David Goggins and the Slovenian skier who won Olympic bronze after she had punctured a lung and broken a bunch of ribs. I don't want to be that mentally tough!!! That just sounds pretty stupid some of these things though. Where’s that line?   20:39 Besides just reading your book, how can athletes actively practice mental fitness?  It's pretty simple to learn how to physically run your best, but how do you mentally train? Any advice with that?   23:59 You definitely have some stories in the book about people freaking out and things not going so well.   26:37 You basically said to some of the athletes that you’ve coached to stop BSing themselves, and sometimes that’s some realism that’s hard to hear too.   28:13 One thing I definitely have