04:14 – Harry welcomes to the podcast, Jay Clouse04:46 – How Harry met Jay06:11 – The inspiration to start the podcast, Upside08:42 – How Jay attracted guests to his podcast12:14 – The dynamic of having a co-host14:17 – Harry and Jay talk about the podcasts that they enjoy18:28 – The evolution of podcasting23:54 – Harry talks about his continual passion for podcasting27:52 – Jay’s prediction for the future of podcasting32:07 – Harry discusses seasonal podcasts that perform well35:02 – Jay’s educational background38:04 – Jay’s current career ventures39:09 – Jay speaks to Upside’s path to profitability40:42 – How Jay engages sponsors in conversation44:42 – Harry expounds on dynamic geotargeted and programmatic ads50:05 – How Jay has grown and evolved as a podcast host52:13 – Jay shares how he utilizes the tool, Air Table55:42 – What is something Jay has changed his mind about recently1:00:58 – What is the most misunderstood thing about Jay1:02:04 – Where listeners can follow JayTWEETABLES“I’m kind of a student of interviewing at this point, and the interviewers that I hate are the ones that talk so much.” (13:06)“If you’re trying to get a slice of that attention from people, the shorter your show, the easier it is for them to stomach.” (21:36)“You’re giving away the best secret of podcasting, which is that you win just by doing the act and meeting the people. It’s such a phenomenal networking hack.” (26:00)“I’m a dabbler. I’m a professional dabbler.” (39:06)“We’re just getting better and better at forming relationships with people in a short period of time.” (51:04)“Entrepreneurship is a grind.” (59:03)THANK YOU SPONSORS!Focusrite - Makers of my go-to sound card, the Scarlett 2i2Aweber - Hosts of the Beyond the Podcast SummitLINKS MENTIONEDJay’s WebsiteJay’s PodcastJay’s LinkedInJay’s FacebookJay’s Twitter – @jayclouseJay’s Instagram – @jayclousePodcast Movement WebsiteLink to Upside/Taft CollaborationLink to Upside/Integrity Power Search CollaborationLink to Air Table ToolPODCAST MENTIONEDInvisibiliaThe Joe Rogan ExperienceTechmeme Ride HomeA Very Fatal MurderBOOKS MENTIONEDAngel