The Ringer's Ben Lindbergh and Jason Concepcion talk to Giant Sparrow creative director Ian Dallas about his new first-person exploration game, 'What Remains of Edith Finch’ (3:38), the melding of moviemaking and video games (5:28), the centrality of story (7:39), and the ways in which 'Edith Finch' experiments with storytelling and interactivity (16:00). Then they bring on Kotaku video editor Chris Person to discuss his popular, long-running 'Highlight Reel' YouTube series (33:35), what makes a good video game highlight (35:55), and which games have been the best fodder for videos (44:48). Lastly, Ben and Jason list some of their most-anticipated titles for the rest of 2017 (50:25).