Debbie Millman has worked with some of the world's biggest brands including Burger King, Hershey’s, Haagen-Dazs, Twizzlers—just to name a few. She's written six books, is a frequent keynote speaker on design and branding, and she hosts the first and longest running podcast about design, Design Matters.

In this episode, we discuss the drawing that started it all, why rejection can be worse than failure, how Design Matters got started, and why persistence is the key to success.

“I don't think it's possible to make a name for yourself doing work for other people. I think that the way you make a name for yourself is doing original work on your own. Which doesn't mean you have to quit your job to do it. I was doing Design Matters while I had two full-time jobs.”

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