We're trying something new with this episode. It's a conversation between business owners on different ends of the experience spectrum. Sisters Anne Pezalla and Kate Pezalla Marlin opened their women's athletic apparel and running shoe boutique, Lively Athletics, in 2014. They're at the start of their entrepreneurial journey and wanted to get some advice from Paul McKenna, who's been running a sandwich shop and catering business called Starship since 1977. You'll hear Anne, Kate and Paul discuss growth, competition, burnout and other issues facing small business owners.