Laws

Written by Plato

Narrated by Geoffrey Giuliano and The Glenn

Laws is Plato's last and longest dialogue. It is generally agreed that Plato wrote this dialogue as an older man, having failed in his effort in Syracuse on the island of Sicily to guide a tyrant's rule, instead having been thrown in prison

The Classical Greek philosopher Plato was instrumental in the development of Western philosophy and science. Plato was born to an aristocratic family and was well-educated. He founded the Academy, one of the first institutions of higher learning, around 385 BC. Plato was highly influenced by his teacher, Socrates. Socrates was condemned to death after being accused of corrupting his young followers. After Socrates' death, Plato recorded several dialogues detailing what he remembered from Socrates' teachings and interactions with others. Almost everything known about Socrates comes from Plato's dialogues. Plato's writings have been revised and interpreted by a variety of publishers.

• Language: English
• Publisher: Icon Audio Arts
• Release date: Jan 28, 2023
• ISBN: 9798887677323

Plato

Plato (aprox. 424-327 BC), a student of Socrates and the teacher of Aristotle, is commonly regarded as the centermost figure of Western philosophy. During the Classical period of Ancient Greece he was based in Athens where he founded his Academy and created the Platonist school of thought. His works are among the most influential in Western history, commanding interest and challenging readers of every era and background since they were composed.

Reviews for Laws

[le.vert.galant · Rating: 5 out of 5 stars]

It's fascinating that Plato's final work abandons the lofty abstractions of The Symposium, Phædrus, and The Republic for a detailed legislative plan to establish a new colony in Crete. Socrates is absent as is the Theory of Forms. It's as if Plato chose to leave something concrete and practical as his last testament. Sadly, little of his literary art remains, especially in the latter half.

[danielstj · Rating: 3 out of 5 stars]

A fundamental Platonic text. It is ripe in its analysis and is extremely nuanced and complicated. Nevertheless, one does not fully understand the basis of Plato (or of ancient Greek society) without this.

[lukerik-1 · Rating: 4 out of 5 stars]

I love Plato, but I put off reading this for years because it just looked so dry. It isn't exactly dry. This may be down to the translation. I've looked into quite a few with a mixture of hope and horror. In the end I went for A E Taylor's (Everyman no. 275). Excellent introduction. The notes are sensible, if sparse, and many presuppose a knowledge of Greek. Still, I think it's worth trading off the notes for something readable. Taylor makes an effort to choose the word that isn't the dullest. In fact, he writes such a nice line of prose that I may look up some of his other books.That said, there's no getting away from the fact that parts of this book are unbelievably boring. My darlings, you're just going to have to power on through those bits. There's a sequence of unalloyed delight in Book VII for example which is a succession of good and bad ideas, all fascinating, which he rounds off by proposing the theory of evolution.Don't think that because he's writing about a pre-industrial society that Laws has no relevance today. There is a clear line of descent from the thoughts in this book to the gas chambers. Every time he uses the word “slave” switch it out for “Jew” and you'll see what I mean. You can do this for the target group of any authoritarian state and it holds true whether it be “intellectuals” or the “working class” etc. This isn't pleasant reading but it is required reading if you want to know your enemy. The mindset is one of complacent arrogance. What I found most frightening is that Plato doesn't consider himself evil. He looks on this sort of treatment of his fellow man as elevating the perpetrator closer to God.

[funkendub · Rating: 4 out of 5 stars]

In the Republic, Plato (using his dead mentor Socrates as a mouthpiece) outlined his idea for the ideal city. The Republic is generally considered the earliest example of a utopian philosophy. The ideal city, in Plato’s view, would be ruled by a benevolent dictator, a “philosopher-king” who would be shielded from corruption but a great number of constraints on his personal freedom. Plato was antagonistic towards democracy, fearing, with some justification, the rule of the mob. It was a democratic vote, after all, that sentenced Socrates to death in 399 B.C., on the charge that Socrates corrupted the youth of Athens and introduced new gods. In general, though, it is recognized that what Plato called “democracy” would be better understood by the modern ear as “anarchy”: the extreme freedom and equality in which “‘there’s no compulsion either to exercise authority if you are capable of it, or to submit to authority if you don’t want to; you needn’t fight if there’s a war, or you can wage a private war in peacetime if you don’t like peace; and if there’s any law that debars you from political or judicial office, you will none the less take either if they come your way” (Republic). We should also remember that Athenian democracy really was the direct participation of its citizens (as the Greek words demo-cracy imply) and therefore unlike modern democracies, where the power and participation of individuals is mediated by elected representatives.Written about 390 B.C., the Laws argues that the ideal city would ban music, theater and art, replacing such activities with a rigorous system of public education for both men and women. This latter idea was radical in Plato’s time. He got the opportunity to try out his political philosophy in Syracuse, working, basically, as a consultant to the king of that island kingdom. Plato failed miserably, and apparently spent several years in prison for his screw up.At the end of his life Plato wrote a kitchen-sink book (or maybe several books that have come down to us as a single work) that tried to summarize a lifetime of political philosophizing. There is a great deal of dross in the Laws (and some of the material, some scholars argue, is probably spurious), and the minutiae it contains can dissuade even the hardiest reader from carrying on. Those interested in the heart of the matter would be well advised to read selections, as in Keith Quincy’s recent Plato Unmasked. One of the key points of the Laws, though, is Plato’s moderation of his opinion of democracy. There’s still a distinct hierarchy in the rule of law and the administration of justice, but this is now spread out among a group of “great men”: Whether it is a matter of art, music or politics, it is only the ‘best men’ who are capable of true judgment. The true judge must not allow himself to be influenced by the gallery nor intimidated by the clamor of the multitude. Nothing must compel him to hand down a verdict that belies his own convictions. It is his duty to teach the multitude and not to learn from them.If one looks at the United States’ system of government with a clear eye, at least some of the material in the Laws describes our situation: the masses are to be guided by shepherds who are wiser and more refined than we are. This empirical evidence perhaps argues against the soundness of both Plato’s and our own system of governance. Although our elected representatives ostensibly enact the will of their constituents it is common knowledge that they usually act in spite of us and instead deploy the will of the rich, i.e., the corporate interests that fund their election campaigns. In other words, the “good men” of our times are CEOs and others who work for the interest of themselves and their (comparatively few) shareholders. But it is exactly this conflict of interest, and how to safeguard against it, that Plato struggled with over his long career. And it is precisely this struggle that make Plato’s works on political philosophy worth reading today, despite their sometimes strange obsession with minutiae and anti-democratic ideas.[Originally published in Curled Up with a Good Book]