Twelve Conversations David Bohm: Brockwood Park UK and Gstaad Switzerland 1975

Written by J Krishnamurti

Narrated by J Krishnamurti

1. What is truth and what is reality - 18 May 1975 Duration: 70 minutes
• What is truth and what is reality?
• Anything that thought thinks about or reflects upon or projects, that is reality.
And that reality has nothing to do with truth.
• The art of seeing is to place reality where it is, and not move that in order to get
truth. You can't get truth.
• How am I to empty that consciousness and yet retain knowledge – otherwise I
couldn't function – and reach a state which will comprehend reality?
2. Seeing 'what is' is action - 24 May 1975 Duration: 122 minutes
• If truth is something totally different from reality then what place has action in
daily life, in relation to truth and reality?
• Seeing 'what is' is action.
• What place has love in truth?
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• When I separate you, in that separation love cannot exist.
• How are you to convey the sense of truth to a student?
• As long as I live in the field of reality, which has its own energy, that energy will
not free me.
• When the mind is empty, when the mind is nothing, not a thing, in that there is
perception.
3. Thought cannot bring about an insight - 31 May 1975 Duration: 81 minutes
• Is there a thinking without the word?
• The action brought about by thought into the investigation of an analysis is
always incomplete.
• Insight is complete. It is not fragmented as thought is. So thought cannot bring
about an insight.
• I must have an insight into conditioning otherwise I can't dissolve it.
• What takes place when I have an insight that the observer is the observed?
• In nothingness there is complete security and stability.
4. The intelligence of love - 14 June 1975 Duration: 87 minutes
• Why has desire become such an extraordinarily important thing in life?
• How does desire arise from perception?
• Can I desire truth?
• Is the energy of nothingness different from the energy of things?
• Is that nothingness a hypothesis, a theory, a verbal structure, or truth? • In dying to the reality only then there is nothingness.
5. Attention implies that there is no centre - 22 June 1975
Duration: 126 minutes
• Consciousness, because it is in constant movement, has never found an energy
which is not contradictory, which is not produced by desire and thought.
• Can thought ever see its own movement and the futility of its own movement? • Attention implies that there is no centre.
• Is there a perception, a seeing outside the space which is part of consciousness? • Therearetwohumanbeings,onegetsconditionedandtheotherdoesn't.Why?
How has it happened the other doesn't get conditioned?
• How does this perception which is beyond attention, beyond awareness,
beyond concentration come about?
• Thought is rather superficial, it's merely a very small part of the operation of the
brain.
• Can consciousness be completely empty of its content? • Order and disorder
6. Perceiving without the perceiver - 28 June 1975 Duration: 139 minutes
• Can thought naturally cease?
• Perceiving without the perceiver
• Facing the truth of death
• Krishnamurti's 'process' and early years.
• Kundalini
• If you can understand suffering, face it and not escape from it, that has quite a
different energy.
• Truth is a pathless land.
• There is something really tremendously mysterious.
• Knowledge is becoming the curse.
• When the mind, with all the confusion, is nothing, not a thing, then perhaps
there is the other.

• Language: English
• Publisher: Krishnamurti Foundation Trust UK
• Release date: Sep 1, 2019
• ISBN: 9781912875559

J Krishnamurti

JIDDU KRISHNAMURTI (18951986) is regarded internationally as one of the great educators and philosophers of our time. Born in South India, he was educated in England, and traveled the world, giving public talks, holding dia logues, writing, and founding schools until the end of his life at the age of ninety. He claimed allegiance to no caste, nationality, or religion and was bound by no tradition. Time magazine named Krishnamurti, along with Mother Teresa, “one of the five saints of the 20th century,” and the Dalai Lama calls Krishnamurti “one of the greatest thinkers of the age.” His teachings are published in 75 books, 700 audiocas settes, and 1200 videocassettes. Thus far, over 4,000,000 copies of his books have been sold in over thirty languages. The rejection of all spiritual and psychological authority, including his own, is a fundamental theme. He said human beings have to free themselves of fear, conditioning, authority, and dogma through selfknowledge. He suggested that this will bring about order and real psychological change. Our violent, conflictridden world cannot be transformed into a life of goodness, love, and compassion by any political, social, or economic strategies. It can be transformed only through mutation in individuals brought about through their own observation without any guru or organized religion. Krishnamurti’s stature as an original philosopher attracted traditional and also creative people from all walks of life. Heads of state, eminent scientists, prominent leaders of the United Nations and various religious organizations, psychiatrists and psychologists, and university professors all engaged in dialogue with Krishnamurti. Students, teachers, and millions of people from all walks of life read his books and came to hear him speak. He bridged science and reli gion without the use of jargon, so scientists and lay people alike could understand his discussions of time, thought, insight, and death. During his lifetime, Krishnamurti established foundations in the United States, India, England, Canada, and Spain. Their defined role is the preservation and dissemination of the teachings, but without any authority to interpret or deify the teachings or the person. Krishnamurti also founded schools in India, England, and the United States. He envisioned that education should emphasize the understanding of the whole human being, mind and heart, not the mere acquisition of academic and intellectual skills. Education must be for learning skills in the art of living, not only the technology to make a living. Krishnamurti said, “Surely a school is a place where one learns about the totality, the wholeness of life. Academic excellence is absolutely necessary, but a school includes much more than that. It is a place where both the teacher and the taught explore, not only the outer world, the world of knowledge, but also their own thinking, their behavior.” He said of his work, “There is no belief demanded or asked, there are no followers, there are no cults, there is no persuasion of any kind, in any direction, and therefore only then we can meet on the same platform, on the same ground, at the same level. Then we can together observe the extraor dinary phenomena of human existence.”