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Listen: You Are Worthy of Sleep

Even in a pandemic.

On the latest episode of the Social Distance podcast, Tricia Hersey of the Nap Ministry joins James Hamblin and Katherine Wells to explain the importance of rest and how to get enough of it.

Listen to their conversation here:

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What follows is an edited and condensed transcript of their conversation.

Katherine Wells: Tricia, will you introduce yourself?

Tricia Hersey: My name is Tricia Hersey, and I’m the founder of the Nap Ministry, which is an organization that examines the liberating power of rest. We name sleep deprivation as a racial and social-justice issue. This project came out of my own experiences with exhaustion.

Wells: You have an undergraduate degree in public health, and you went to graduate school for divinity, so you’re interested in both the science and spiritual aspects of rest, is that right?

Absolutely. My undergraduate degree was in community health, and I was really interested in looking at the body in

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