Kirsty Buchanan, former special advisor to Theresa May, and Calum Macdonald discuss the prison system in the UK, and Sir Keir Starmer's six pledges for the next general election. The conversation touches on the challenges of the prison system, the need for a fresh look at remand and recall, and the importance of rehabilitation and reform. It also explores the effectiveness of political pledges and the need for realistic and achievable goals. The conversation covers various topics, including the Labour Party's five missions and the addition of a sixth mission related to border security. The discussion also touches on the timeline for achieving these missions and the importance of managing expectations. The hosts then shift to a clip of an interview with Rishi Sunak on the Loose Women program, where he is questioned about his policies towards pensioners. The hosts analyse the interview style and the effectiveness of different interview techniques. Support the podcast by becoming a member at: https://plus.acast.com/s/whitehallsources.

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