For years, a Hawaiian-shirt and flip-flop wearing, smack-talking entrepreneur has been promising to disrupt the US defense industry. Now, Palmer Luckey, founder of autonomous weapons startup Anduril Industries, isn’t just talking about it, he’s doing it. Emily Chang and Palmer Luckey sit down to discuss building Anduril, his relationship with Silicon Valley, how autonomous weapons are changing the battlefield in Ukraine, and culture clashes between Big Tech and the defense industry. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.