Hello, Hello!   In this episode, Chris and Nick talk with filmmaker Nathan Rigaud. Nathan shares his background and experience in filmmaking, including working on sets and creating his own animated content. They discuss challenges in the indie film industry and the importance of proper planning, collaboration, and starting small. The group also explores early underwater filmmaking and personal experiences with sharks.   We also talk about:   Nathan discusses the structure of his animation company, Whale Animation Studios, and his leadership style. The speakers debate the benefits of roles like production assistant for learning filmmaking skills.   The group shares differing opinions on movies and the personal nature of storytelling. Payment challenges in the film industry are explored, including options for protection. Papa Bear shares details of the 1914 experimental underwater film "30 Leagues Under the Sea" and its controversial shark attack scene      Enjoy!     Indie Artist Spotlight   Artist: Call Me Ace   Track:  FIRST GEN ANTHEM   This highly gifted, multi-faceted artist lives a double life. By day, he works in Silicon Valley; by night, he transforms into the prolific Bay Area rapper Call Me Ace. In both roles, he’s a total boss, working diligently to uplift disenfranchised communities, spread positive vibes, and celebrate culture. If your parents are not from the country you live in now, “FIRST GEN ANTHEM” is your theme song. When your home is a second nation, there’s a certain way you have to navigate life: one where every step you take is the epitome of “innovation.”   https://callmeace.com   https://www.instagram.com/callmeacelegit/   https://tiktok.com/@callmeacelegit