Hello, Hello!    In this edition of Indie Talk, Chris and Nick are back with a wide-ranging conversation and make room for special guest Production Designer & Art Director Frances Hernandez! We talk about:   Why Voles are evil Moles Frances' work on Ahsoka and Next Goal Wins The quiet, easy genius of Taika Waititi The failure of the latest round of Marvel films Why the WGA, SAG, and AMPTP might be talking past each other and delaying an agreement Nick drops a new CULTURE CHECK on the state of Journalism   Producer Papa Bear stumps and educates us with an all-new Things We Should Know and much more...   Enjoy!   The MAKE IT podcast is brought to you by the Voice of the Filmmaker program, which is sponsored by Women in Film and Television, Nashville (a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization).   If you like what we're doing, please donate here: https://www.bonsai.film/donate.   How you can continue to enjoy MAKE IT content:   Subscribe to the MAKE IT YouTube channel. Subscribe to the MAKE IT Podcast wherever you listen to podcasts. Subscribe to our newsletter at https://www.bonsai.film/subscribe.   The MAKE IT podcast amplifies the voice of the filmmaker by exploring the filmmaking journeys of actors, writers, directors, producers, and a host of other creatives from across the film industry. We provide a platform for filmmakers to provide advice, lessons learned, personal reflections, and insights through our Filmmaker Conversations, Mistakes in the Making, Industry Insights, Indie Talks, and Film Investment Series. We are the go-to film podcast for independent creatives!