Welcome back to ARTMATTERS: The Podcast for Artists. And we're back with Part 2 of my three-part conversation with Wisconsin-based artist, TL Solien. Today we conclude the exploration of his early (or phase 1) art practice, including a fun description of the origins of his pictographic works. We talk about his early career experiences in visiting and exhibiting in New York City and living for a time in Paris. We discuss family, and home-life, agreements, and finances, the difficulties following the art market crash, and TL's  experience entering the culture of academia. Then we come back around to the concept or self-respect, the second phase of TL's studio practice, collage, Moby Dick, building paintings towards vibration , space, implied linearity and more. As I mentioned last week, I am extremely proud of this interview, and very thankful to my guest for his patience and his willingness to share so much of life with me and the ARTMATTERS listeners. About:T.L Solien, born in Fargo North Dakota in 1949, received a BA degree in Art from Moorhead State University, Moorhead MN in 1973, and an MFA in Painting and Sculpture from the University of Nebraska-Lincoln in 1977.TL Solien has been  invited to  participate in numerous exhibitions  of National and International magnitude including, the 1983 Whitney Biennial, the 39th  Biennial of American Painting at the Corcoran Museum, Washington, D.C.; Avant-Grade in the 80”s, at the Los Angeles County Museum of Art; The American Artist as Printmaker,   Brooklyn Museum NY; Images and Impressions, Walker Art Center, Minneapolis, MN; and Contemporary Drawings, High Museum of Art, Atlanta, GA. Solien was the subject, recently, of a 25 year retrospective at the Madison Museum of Contemporary Art, Madison WI, entitled “ T.L. Solien: Myths and Monsters", as well as a touring exhibition porganized by the Plains Museum of Fargo North Dakota, entitled "Toward the Setting Sun", comprised of 65 work, and supported by a 200 page catalog published and distributed by the University of Minnesota Press.TL Solien has had approximately 40 solo exhibitions over the last 25 years.TL Solien is represented in numerous corporate and public collections including, The Whitney Museum of American Art, New York; The Art Institute of Chicago, IL; The Walker Art Center, Minneapolis;  High Museum of Art, Atlanta; The Metropolitan Museum, New York; The Tate Modern, London;  The Smithsonian Museum ,Washington D.C.;  The Frederick Weisman Foundation, Los Angeles;  The National Museum of American Art, Washington, D.C.;  The Milwaukee Museum of Art, Milwaukee, WI. and  Madison Museum of Contemporary Art, Madison, WI.   TL Solien is currently represented by Tory Folliard Gallery in Milwaukee, and his most recent solo exhibition was at OTI in Los Angeles, CA. If you're enjoying the podcast so far, please rate, review, subscribe and SHARE ON INSTAGRAM!       If you have an any questions you want answered, write in to artmatterspodcast@gmail.com  host: Isaac Mannwww.isaacmann.cominsta: @isaac.mann  guest: TL Solien https://www.solientl.com/insta: @tlsolien