Welcome back to ARTMATTERS: The Podcast for ArtistsOn today’s episode we have the dramatic conclusion of my conversation with the artist James English Leary. Last time, James and I spoke at length about the state of art education. Today we discuss his new watercolors, collecting art, different kinds of change, deskilling, space and depiction, 19th century French painting and how unconditional support for an artists work - like love - is for babies.  We also talk Renoir, Matisse, Hockney, Schnabel, Guston, Jack Witten, Ron Gorchov and Howard Hodgkin.This will be the last episode of ARTMATTERS in 2023 so I want to say a big thank you to all of my listeners! I hope you all have a great holiday and a happy new year:)See you back in 2024 for the next episode of ARTMATTERS: The Podcast for Artists.About James English Leary:James English Leary is a painter and psychotherapist in private practice in New York City. His work has been exhibited in Greater New York at MoMA PS1, the Whitney Biennial, and the Sundance Film Festival. He co-founded the artist collective The Bruce High Quality Foundation which was the subject of a 2013 retrospective at the Brooklyn Museum. Leary co-founded the tuition-free art school BHQFU where he was a director and teacher. He has lectured on the sociology and economies of the institutions of art history and taught drawing and painting at The Cooper Union School of Art.If you're enjoying the podcast so far, please rate, review, subscribe and SHARE ON INSTAGRAM!      If you have an any questions you want answered, write in to artmatterspodcast@gmail.comAbout the Podcast:    Host: Isaac Mann www.isaacmann.cominsta: @isaac.mannGuest: James English Learyhttps://www.kandlhofer.com/artists/86-james-english-leary insta: @jamesenglishleary