Dr Jason E Liebowitz joins Dr Marwan Bukhari to discuss the metaverse and how the field of rheumatology can utilise virtual and augmented reality to improve the lives of patients.Listen now to hear about the current technological developments and what this means for future clinical practice! You can read this article [https://doi.org/10.1093/rheumatology/kead534] in Rheumatology.Registration is open for BSR's Annual Conference. As the UK's leading rheumatology event, we bring together over 2,000 delegates for three days of learning, knowledge sharing, networking and innovation. Book your ticket today!Thanks for listening to Talking Rheumatology Research! Join the conversation on Twitter using #TalkingRheumResearch, tweet us @RheumJnl, or find us on Instagram. Want to read more rheumatology research? Explore Rheumatology and Rheumatology Advances in Practice.