The most recent United Nations Climate Conference resulted in an agreement between nearly 200 nations about the next steps in dealing with the climate crisis. It included for the first time ever language around transitioning away from fossil fuels. Heralded in some quarters as "the end of the era of fossil fuels," critics say the deal is filled with loopholes that will undermine efforts to combat the climate crisis. The final text fails to explicitly call for a phaseout of fossil fuels, language sought by over 100 countries.

In our latest episode, Scott talks with journalist and author Tina Gerhardt (@TinaGerhardtEJ) about COP28, the negotiations, the agreement, industry influences, peoples' movements influences and what it all means.

Bio//
Tina Gerhardt is an environmental journalist who covers the UN climate change negotiations, climate change and sea level rise, each with a focus on environmental justice. Her writing has been published in Grist, The Guardian, The Nation, Orion and Sierra Magazine. She is author of Sea Change: An Atlas of Islands in a Rising Ocean (University of California Press, 2023).

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+ The Nation: The UN Climate Conference Finally Names the Culprit, Fossil Fuels—but Is It Enough? (https://bit.ly/3NHYIIP)
+Sierra: Here’s Some of What Happened at the UN Climate Talks (https://bit.ly/48ySrXL)

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