In this episode we talk with author, journalist, historian, and socialist Joe Allen about police unions, fighting fascism and police brutality in Chicago, the UPS strike of 1997, labor organizing at "Big Brown" and democratic organizing in the labor movement.  
Joe Allen worked for nearly a decade at UPS. He has been a member of several Teamster local unions and a member of Teamsters for a Democratic Union. His books include Vietnam: The (Last) War the U.S. Lost, 'People Wasn't Made to Burn': A Trues Story of Race, Murder, and Justice in Chicago and, most recently, and recently re-released, The Package King: A Rank and File History of United Parcel Service. He has contributed over the years to Socialist Worker (U.S.), the International Socialist Review, Counterpunch, In These Times, Midwest Socialist, Jacobin, Rampant, and Medium.
Read more by Joe Allen:

Rampant: Sever All Ties with Police Unions
Jacobin: Black Lives at Big Brown
Jacobin: The UPS Strike, Two Decades Later
Medium: The Return of the ‘Hamburgs’? White Vigilantes, the Chicago Police, and Anti-Fascism in Chicago

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