Robert Martin (aka Uncle Bob) is a programming pioneer and bestselling author or Clean Code. We discuss the prospect of automating programming, spotting and developing coding talent, occupational licensing, quotas, and the elusive sense of style.  Watch on YouTube. Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or any other podcast platform.Listen to his fascinating talk on the future of programming: https://youtu.be/ecIWPzGEbFc Read his blog about programming: http://blog.cleancoder.com/ Buy his books on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/kindle-dbs/ent... Thanks for reading The Lunar Society! Subscribe to find out about future episodes!Timestamps(0:00) - Automating programming (8:40) - Educating programmers (expertise, talent, university) (21:45) - Spotting talent (26:10) - Teaching kids (29:31) - Prose and music sense in coding (32:22) - Occupational licensing for programmers (35:49) - Why is tech political (39:28) - Quotas (42:29) - Advice to 20 yr old Get full access to Dwarkesh Podcast at www.dwarkeshpatel.com/subscribe