Did you know that pretty much anything goes in international waters? Past a certain point somewhere beyond the coast, national jurisdiction ends and the Wild West begins. There's no police force for the ocean, so with rampant piracy, smuggling and illegal fishing - who's in charge? Maritime lawyer Richard Caddell joins Hannah in the studio.

Also - we meet Steve Truluck, whose life changed when he started watching whales off the coast of Scotland. His work with Orca Watch brings that joy to other people.

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