The conversation between Ryan and Patrick covers various topics related to podcasting, music, and their personal experiences. They discuss their podcast setups, favorite albums and cassettes, and Patrick's background in music and the instruments he plays. They also touch on the commercialization of music and the pressure and expectations Patrick faced at the Western States race. Overall, the conversation provides insights into their shared passion for music and the challenges and joys of being involved in the music industry. In this part of the conversation, Patrick reflects on his past races and the disappointment he felt at Western States 2021. He discusses the freedom he now feels without the pressure of living up to expectations and the joy of rediscovering running without the need for competition. Patrick also emphasizes the importance of authentic relationships and appreciating the journey. He expresses gratitude for his sponsors and the support they have shown him. Finally, Patrick talks about the freedom to express his opinions without the constraints of being a sponsored athlete. In this conversation, Patrick Reagan and Ryan Ploeckelman discuss the impact of a controversial shoe design on Patrick's running career. They also explore the coaching process and the importance of finding the right coach for individual athletes. Patrick shares his insights on working with athletes of all levels and the satisfaction of seeing them achieve their goals. They also touch on the challenges and rewards of ultra running and the importance of staying positive in the face of adversity. The conversation concludes with a discussion about future conversations and the thriving Adventure Jogger community.
Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Podcast Setup
00:35 Discussion about Podcasting and Music
06:33 Patrick's Music Background and Instruments
09:58 The Role of Rhythm in Bands
12:25 Getting into Music and Playing in Bands
26:45 Commercialization of Music
31:00 Meeting at Western States and Memes
33:49 Pressure and Expectations at Western States
34:22 Reflecting on Past Races
39:17 The Disappointment of Western States 2021
46:55 The Freedom of Not Living up to Expectations
53:51 Taking a Sabbatical and Rediscovering the Joy of Running
59:12 Authentic Relationships and Appreciating the Journey
01:06:49 Finding Support and Gratitude in Sponsors
01:07:46 Embracing Freedom to Express Opinions
01:07:59 The Awful Experiment
01:08:54 The Strange Shoe Design
01:09:23 The Impact on Performance
01:09:46 Taking a Stand
01:10:04 The Downfall
01:10:34 Reflecting on the Experience
01:11:18 The Positive Side of Hoka
01:11:32 Comparing Different Brands
01:12:30 Timing and Trajectory
01:12:42 Favorite Swag from Hoka
01:13:45 Exclusive Gear
01:14:02 Invitation to Nashville
01:14:32 The Ryman Auditorium
01:15:02 Helping Everyday Runners
01:16:06 Best Advice for Everyday Runners
01:16:45 Investment in Athletes
01:17:18 Working with Different Athletes
01:18:08 Learning from Everyday Runners
01:19:05 The Challenge of Coaching
01:19:36 Invested in Athletes' Success
01:20:03 Collaborative Coaching
01:20:43 Unique Concepts in Coaching
01:21:28 Working with Different Athletes
01:22:31 Coaching Breakups
01:23:08 Maintaining Relationships
01:23:51 Possibility of Future Conversations
01:25:29 The Rollercoaster of Ultra Running
01:26:01 The Realities of Ultra Running
01:27:26 Coaching Relationships
01:28:07 The Breakup of Tortoise and Hare
01:29:14 Future Conversations
01:31:26 The Adventure Jogger Community
01:32:06 The Tortoise and the Hare Podcast
01:33:17 Continuing the Conversation
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