In this episode, A'ndre and Ryan talk to Dan Hubert, former LCDR in the US Navy and the founder of MODUS, about surveillance drones, drones in the private sector, his 'battlefield to the boardroom' story, and the broader defense industry in the private sector. Dan provides us with a keen insight on the history of surveillance drones in the US military, and how they have been employed -- drawing on his own personal experience as a Unit Officer-in-Charge of UAVs in Iraq. We talk about how drones have contributed to the collection of geospatial intelligence, and the nature of network-centric and information warfare. Dan then takes us into the defense industry in the private sector, where we discuss corporate espionage, the prevalence of geopolitics in commercial usage of drones, and how data privacy can portend to be a significant security risk to the average everyday citizen. If you're interested in hearing more about Dan's work with MODUS, you can visit their website here: https://www.modus-ai.com/about/