In this episode of The Burn Bag Podcast, we interviewed Dr. Michael O'Hanlon, Senior Fellow and Director of Research with the Foreign Policy team at the Brookings Institution, about NATO, defense spending, great power competition, and the nuclear playing field. Dr. O'Hanlon offers a 'grade' for the Trump Administration's foreign policy performance, the planned removal of US troops from Germany, and what shifts in foreign policy may or may not occur with a new Biden Administration or a second Trump Administration. Dr. O'Hanlon is the author of many books, including The Senkaku Paradox: Risking Great Power War Over Limited Stakes and Beyond NATO: A New Security Architecture for Eastern Europe.