The Arizona Cardinals lost for the first time this season. It was a 41-20 shellacking by Peyton  Manning and the Denver Broncos. The Cardinals were defeated, injured and insulted. There was a dirty chop block, no running game, a concussion to Drew Stanton, which led to Logan Thomas having to play, a bunch of bad throws by the rookie and one fantastic one that went for a big touchdown. The aftermath was a laundry list of injuries. Seth and Jess talk about the dirty Julius Thomas block, the injuries, the impact and more. Is this season going to snowball into 2012? Are the Cardinals now in a position where Carson Palmer's return and play will make or break the season, and are you comfortable with that being the case?Have a listen, tell us what you think and, as always, head on over to Revenge of the Birds for the best Cardinals content and fan community on the Internet.