Howard Balzer joins Jess on the show to talk about the legacy of Pat Tillman. The 20th Pat's Run is this week and it will be 20 years since he was killed in action in Afghanistan later this month. Howard interviewed Tillman's brother-in-law Alex Garwood, the co-founder of the run and the Pat Tillman Foundation, on SiriusXM's Hall of Fame Radio show. He speaks of what he learned from the interview and from talking to former Cardinals head coach Dave McGinnis.