Sung and Emelia sit down with MotorTrend Head of Editorial, Ed Loh. Ed shares not only his chicken chili verde recipe, but also his insight about seismic shifts on the horizon with SDVs (software defined vehicles) and the impact this will have on the car industry, from manufacturers to enthusiasts. They also get into gardening, compost, and Sung and Ed do their best to convince Emelia on the virtues of the minivan.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.