The main portion of this show this week is an interview with Heather Keam, of the Tamarack Institute. Heather is manager of Cities, Cities Deepening Community, Vibrant Communities at Tamarack and she spoke with us about what Asset Based Community Development (ABCD) is and how can help strengthen communities and build resilience.In the chat before the interview Margaret and Adam discuss concerns regarding the Ontario government's seemingly singular focus on business interests in their planning for  a recovery from COVID-19, why that could pose problems for future resilience to crises, and why we need a Just Recovery based on an inclusive dialogue with all, rather than a recovery that focuses simply on business. Check out the show notes on our website for links to resources.Support the show