In episode 35 of The Gradient Podcast, guest host Sharon Zhou speaks to Jack Shanahan.John (Jack) Shanahan was a Lieutenant General in the United States Air Force, retired after a 36-year military career. He was the inaugural Director of the Joint Artificial Intelligence Center (JAIC) in the U.S. Department of Defense (DoD). He was also the Director of the Algorithmic Warfare Cross-Functional Team (Project Maven). Currently, he is a Special Government Employee supporting the National Security Commission on Artificial Intelligence; serves on the Board of Advisors for the Common Mission Project; is an advisor to The Changing Character of War Centre (Oxford University); is a member of the CACI Strategic Advisory Group; and serves as an Advisor to the Military Cyber Professionals Association.Subscribe to The Gradient Podcast:  Apple Podcasts  | Spotify | Pocket Casts | RSSFollow The Gradient on TwitterOutline:(00:00) Intro(01:20) Introduction to Jack and Sharon(07:30) Project Maven(09:45) Relationship of Tech Sector and DoD(16:40) Need for AI in DoD(20:10) Bringing the tech-DoD divide(30:00) ConclusionEpisode Links:* John N.T. Shanahan Wikipedia* AI To Revolutionize U.S. Intelligence Community With General Shanahan* Email: aidodconversations@gmail.com Get full access to The Gradient at thegradientpub.substack.com/subscribe