In episode 33 of The Gradient Podcast, Andrey Kurenkov speaks to Lukas Biewald.Lukas Biewald is a co-founder of Weights and Biases, a company that creates developer tools for machine learning. Prior to that he was a co-founder and CEO of Figure Eight Inc. (formerly CrowdFlower) — an Internet company that collects training data for machine learning, which was sold for 300 million dollars.Subscribe to The Gradient Podcast:  Apple Podcasts  | Spotify | Pocket Casts | RSSFollow The Gradient on TwitterOutline:* (00:00) Intro* (01:18) Start in AI* (06:17) CrowdFlower / Crowdsourcing* (21:06) Discovering Deep Learning * (25:10) Learning Deep Learning* (32:50) Weights and Biases* (37:30) State of Tooling for ML * (41:20) Exciting AI Trends* (44:42) Interests outside of AI* (45:40) OutroLinks:* Lukas’s website* Lukas’s GitHub* Starting a Second Machine Learning Tools Company, Ten Years Later* Confession of a so-called AI expert* What I learned from looking at 200 machine learning tools* CS 329S: Machine Learning Systems Design* Designing Machine Learning SystemsOpportunity at Weights & Biases: Get full access to The Gradient at thegradientpub.substack.com/subscribe