The MacVoices Live! panel took on breaking news on why Apple decided to pull the plug on the Apple Card relationship with Goldman Sachs, who would be a likely successor, and what the implications are for consumers. Chuck Joiner, David Ginsburg, Brian Flanigan-Arthurs, Web Bixby, Ben Roethig, Eric Bolden, Mark Fuccio, and Jim Rea weigh in. (Part 1) MacVoices is supported by Incogni. Don't let companies exploit your personal information. It’s risk- free with Incogni’s 30-day money back guarantee! Show Notes: Chapters: 0:00:00 Apple and Goldman Sachs part ways 0:06:00 Remembering Charlie Munger 0:06:58 Reflecting on a Remarkable Life 0:09:07 Windows vs. Mac Bug Exorcism 0:11:26 Goldman's dissatisfaction and Apple's initiative in finding new partner 0:12:43 Goldman Sachs losing money due to loan losses 0:14:20 Uncertainty about the fate of Apple savings account 0:22:01 Credit Rating and Charges on Apple Card 0:23:24 Apple's Shift towards Lower-priced iPhone and iPad Market 0:23:42 Apple User Base Shifts with iPhone's Popularity 0:25:34 Apple Demographics and Car Companies' Preferences 0:29:33 Apple Pay and Card Infrastructure 0:31:20 Implications of Apple's demands and potential future of Apple Card Links: Apple ending relationship with Goldman Sachs, fate of Apple Card unclear  https://9to5mac.com/2023/11/28/apple-ending-relationship-with-goldman-sachs-fate-of-apple-card-unclear/ Guests: Web Bixby has been in the insurance business for 40 years and has been an Apple user for longer than that.You can catch up with him on Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn. Eric Bolden is into macOS, plants, sci-fi, food, and is a rural internet supporter. You can connect with him on Twitter, by email at embolden@mac.com, on Mastodon at @eabolden@techhub.social, and on his blog, Trending At Work. Brian Flanigan-Arthurs is an educator with a passion for providing results-driven, innovative learning strategies for all students, but particularly those who are at-risk. He is also a tech enthusiast who has a particular affinity for Apple since he first used the Apple IIGS as a student. You can contact Brian on twitter as @brian8944. He also recently opened a Mastodon account at @brian8944@mastodon.cloud. Mark Fuccio is actively involved in high tech startup companies, both as a principle at piqsure.com, or as a marketing advisor through his consulting practice Tactics Sells High Tech, Inc. Mark was a proud investor in Microsoft from the mid-1990's selling in mid 2000, and hopes one day that MSFT will be again an attractive investment. You can contact Mark through Twitter, LinkedIn, or on Mastodon. David Ginsburg is the host of the weekly podcast In Touch With iOS where he discusses all things iOS, iPhone, iPad, Apple TV, Apple Watch, and related technologies. He is an IT professional supporting Mac, iOS and Windows users. Visit his YouTube channel at https://youtube.com/daveg65 and find and follow him on Twitter @daveg65 and on Mastodon at @daveg65@mastodon.cloud Jim Rea built his own computer from scratch in 1975, started programming in 1977, and has been an independent Mac developer continuously since 1984. He is the founder of ProVUE Development, and the author of Panorama X, ProVUE's ultra fast RAM based database software for the macOS platform. He’s been a speaker at MacTech, MacWorld Expo and other industry conferences. Follow Jim at provue.com and via @provuejim@techhub.social on Mastodon. Ben Roethig has been in the Apple Ecosystem since the System 7 Days. He is the a former Associate Editor with Geek Beat, Co-Founder of The Tech Hangout and Deconstruct and currently shares his thoughts on RoethigTech. Contact him on  Twitter and Mastodon. Support:      Become a MacVoices Patron on Patreon      http://patreon.com/macvoices      Enjoy this episode? Make a one-time donation with PayPal Connect:      Web:      http://macvoices.com      Twitter:      http://www.twitter.com/chuckjoiner      http://www.twitter.com/macvoices      Mastodon:      http