The MacVoices Live! panel of David Ginsburg, Jim Rea, Eric Bolden, Mark Fuccio, Ben Roethig, Kelly Guimont, Brian Flanigan-Arthurs, and Brittany Smith start off this session by discussing their impressions of macOS Sonoma,and iOS 17 features. The benefits of interactive widgets and  Live Voicemail are covered, then the discussion turns to absurd durability tests, cases, especially the new FineWoven options. (Part 1)  \ This edition of MacVoices is supported by The MacVoices Slack. Available all Patrons of MacVoices. Sign up at Patreon.com/macvoices. Show Notes: Chapters: 0:00:00 Exciting Updates: New iPhone, Mac OSes, and Widgets 0:00:23 Introducing Mac Voices Live 0:02:30 Mark Fuccio joins the conversation on Mac OS Sonoma 0:06:19 Waiting to Upgrade Machines for Sonoma Compatibility 0:07:40 Sonoma: Under the Hood Changes 0:09:08 Frustrations with Apple Music and Mail on Mac 0:10:44 Longing for the return of widgets on Mac OS 0:13:02 Camera Issue and iPad Mentioned 0:16:13 Initial Impressions and Features of Sonoma 0:18:15 Migration and Troubles with HomePods 0:21:14 YouTuber Tests iPhone Durability with Box Cutter 0:23:17 Discussion on People Trying Destructive Stunts for Views 0:27:38 Technical Difficulties and Muted Conversation 0:29:10 Discussion on iPhone Cases and Preferences 0:30:43 Explore Different Phone Case Options Links: ESR for iPhone 15 Pro Max Case, Compatible with MagSafe, Military-Grade Protection, Yellowing Resistant, Scratch-Resistant Back, Magnetic Phone Case for iPhone 15 Pro Max https://amzn.to/3LMkg63 Guests: Eric Bolden is into macOS, plants, sci-fi, food, and is a rural internet supporter. You can connect with him on Twitter, by email at embolden@mac.com, on Mastodon at @eabolden@techhub.social, and on his blog, Trending At Work. Brian Flanigan-Arthurs is an educator with a passion for providing results-driven, innovative learning strategies for all students, but particularly those who are at-risk. He is also a tech enthusiast who has a particular affinity for Apple since he first used the Apple IIGS as a student. You can contact Brian on twitter as @brian8944. He also recently opened a Mastodon account at @brian8944@mastodon.cloud. Mark Fuccio is actively involved in high tech startup companies, both as a principle at piqsure.com, or as a marketing advisor through his consulting practice Tactics Sells High Tech, Inc. Mark was a proud investor in Microsoft from the mid-1990's selling in mid 2000, and hopes one day that MSFT will be again an attractive investment. You can contact Mark through Twitter, LinkedIn, or on Mastodon. David Ginsburg is the host of the weekly podcast In Touch With iOS where he discusses all things iOS, iPhone, iPad, Apple TV, Apple Watch, and related technologies. He is an IT professional supporting Mac, iOS and Windows users. Visit his YouTube channel at https://youtube.com/daveg65 and find and follow him on Twitter @daveg65 and on Mastodon at @daveg65@mastodon.cloud Kelly Guimont is a podcaster and friend of the Rebel Alliance. You can also hear her on The Aftershow with Mike Rose, and she still has more to say which she saves for Twitter and Mastodon.  Jim Rea built his own computer from scratch in 1975, started programming in 1977, and has been an independent Mac developer continuously since 1984. He is the founder of ProVUE Development, and the author of Panorama X, ProVUE's ultra fast RAM based database software for the macOS platform. He’s been a speaker at MacTech, MacWorld Expo and other industry conferences. Follow Jim at provue.com and via @provuejim@techhub.social on Mastodon. Ben Roethig has been in the Apple Ecosystem since the System 7 Days. He is the a former Associate Editor with Geek Beat, Co-Founder of The Tech Hangout and Deconstruct and currently shares his thoughts on RoethigTech. Contact him on  Twitter and Mastodon. Brittany Smith is a trained cognitive neuroscientist who provides ADD/ADHD, technology, and productivity coaching through her business, De