This MacVoices Live! discussion continues as David Ginsburg, Jim Rea, Eric Bolden, Mark Fuccio, Ben Roethig, Kelly Guimont, Brian Flanigan-Arthurs, and Brittany Smith examine the disappointment with Apple's FineWoven iPhone cases and explore alternative options in the market. We touch on standby mode, interactive widgets in iOS 17, and the features of the new iPhone, then wrap up with the benefits of upgrading through the Apple iPhone lease program. (Part 2)  This edition of MacVoices is supported by MacVoices After Dark. What happens before and after the shows is uncensored, on-topic, off-topic, and always off the wall. Sign up as a MacVoices Patron and get access! http://patreon.com/macvoices Show Notes: Chapters: 0:00:55 Exploring varying levels of excitement for the iPhone 0:03:13 Concerns about the quality and price of fabric cases 0:05:16 Durability of Fine Woven Cases 0:06:36 The struggle with cheap rubbery cleaning cloths 0:07:16 Apple's History of New Cases and Technologies 0:09:22 Apple's Decision to Abandon Leather Cases 0:10:51 Doubts on Choosing Fine Woven Phone 0:11:06 Standby Mode: Initial Impressions and Customization 0:13:02 iOS 17 Features: Interactive Widgets 0:15:16 Buttons Placement and Layout Changes 0:16:48 Positive and Negative Reactions to Button Placement 0:18:50 Offline Maps and Frustrations with Phone Name Dropping 0:22:25 Excitement over Night Sisters in Star Wars 0:24:13 Lack of excitement for Google phones compared to iPhones Links: iPhone 15 Teardown Reveals Software Lockdown https://www.ifixit.com/News/82867/iphone-15-teardown-reveals-software-lockdown Watch MKBHD unbox a sealed OG iPhone after winning $40,000 auction [Video] https://9to5mac.com/2023/04/20/sealed-original-iphone-unboxing-mkbhd/ Otterbox Figura Series for Magsafe https://www.otterbox.com/en-us/slim-iphone-15-pro-max-case-blue/77-94432.html Guests: Eric Bolden is into macOS, plants, sci-fi, food, and is a rural internet supporter. You can connect with him on Twitter, by email at embolden@mac.com, on Mastodon at @eabolden@techhub.social, and on his blog, Trending At Work. Brian Flanigan-Arthurs is an educator with a passion for providing results-driven, innovative learning strategies for all students, but particularly those who are at-risk. He is also a tech enthusiast who has a particular affinity for Apple since he first used the Apple IIGS as a student. You can contact Brian on twitter as @brian8944. He also recently opened a Mastodon account at @brian8944@mastodon.cloud. Mark Fuccio is actively involved in high tech startup companies, both as a principle at piqsure.com, or as a marketing advisor through his consulting practice Tactics Sells High Tech, Inc. Mark was a proud investor in Microsoft from the mid-1990's selling in mid 2000, and hopes one day that MSFT will be again an attractive investment. You can contact Mark through Twitter, LinkedIn, or on Mastodon. David Ginsburg is the host of the weekly podcast In Touch With iOS where he discusses all things iOS, iPhone, iPad, Apple TV, Apple Watch, and related technologies. He is an IT professional supporting Mac, iOS and Windows users. Visit his YouTube channel at https://youtube.com/daveg65 and find and follow him on Twitter @daveg65 and on Mastodon at @daveg65@mastodon.cloud Kelly Guimont is a podcaster and friend of the Rebel Alliance. You can also hear her on The Aftershow with Mike Rose, and she still has more to say which she saves for Twitter and Mastodon.  Jim Rea built his own computer from scratch in 1975, started programming in 1977, and has been an independent Mac developer continuously since 1984. He is the founder of ProVUE Development, and the author of Panorama X, ProVUE's ultra fast RAM based database software for the macOS platform. He’s been a speaker at MacTech, MacWorld Expo and other industry conferences. Follow Jim at provue.com and via @provuejim@techhub.social on Mastodon. Ben Roethig has been in the Apple Ecosystem since the System 7 Days. He